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	<title>Comments on: Cutting off your Internet if you are accused of infringement</title>
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		<title>By: Google Criticizes &#34;Copyright Infringement&#34; Takedown Procedures :Marketing Promotion Optimization</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Criticizes &#34;Copyright Infringement&#34; Takedown Procedures :Marketing Promotion Optimization</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Colin Jackon at Gen.nz, New Zealand&#8217;s section 92a of the copyright law &#8220;says that ISPs have to cut people off [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Lamb</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1462</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ, i&#039;m embarrassed to be living in New Zealand right now. Yes, we are probably one of the luckiest countries in the world in many terms (beautiful country, on a global scale a safe place to live etc.) but my passion is music and I am a musician who produces his own music as well as an avid music fan, so i am ashamed that our government would do something of this scale. Its basically violating what we&#039;re told is a basic human right...not to mention seemingly creating a new Law that effectively circumvents one of the very basic foundations of Law: innocent until proven guilty. It seems as if greedy music companys can point the finger, get us cut off and be above the law...if you&#039;re reading this and have any common sense, we need to do all we can to stop this law being passed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ, i&#8217;m embarrassed to be living in New Zealand right now. Yes, we are probably one of the luckiest countries in the world in many terms (beautiful country, on a global scale a safe place to live etc.) but my passion is music and I am a musician who produces his own music as well as an avid music fan, so i am ashamed that our government would do something of this scale. Its basically violating what we&#8217;re told is a basic human right&#8230;not to mention seemingly creating a new Law that effectively circumvents one of the very basic foundations of Law: innocent until proven guilty. It seems as if greedy music companys can point the finger, get us cut off and be above the law&#8230;if you&#8217;re reading this and have any common sense, we need to do all we can to stop this law being passed!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the next law in the pipeline? That police can impound your car if the petrol companys suspect you of speeding. No trial, no proof, and no accountability? 

Does this mean that all the university&#039;s will loose internet access. I&#039;m sure that will be great for progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the next law in the pipeline? That police can impound your car if the petrol companys suspect you of speeding. No trial, no proof, and no accountability? </p>
<p>Does this mean that all the university&#8217;s will loose internet access. I&#8217;m sure that will be great for progress.</p>
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		<title>By: S92a ranting &#171; Thoughts of a geek</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1394</link>
		<dc:creator>S92a ranting &#171; Thoughts of a geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people have already written about why the changes are so bad. A protest is happening, both online by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1355</link>
		<dc:creator>colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter

There is, of course, no simple answer, which is one of the reasons the law as put is so iniquitous. 

The best answer I could give your students would be to check the copyright statement of anything they are considering downloading. You could introduce the concept of Creative Commons, and say it&#039;s legally risky to download anything else.

Not a very satisfactory answer, I&#039;m afraid, but it&#039;s the best I can come up with.

Regards

Colin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter</p>
<p>There is, of course, no simple answer, which is one of the reasons the law as put is so iniquitous. </p>
<p>The best answer I could give your students would be to check the copyright statement of anything they are considering downloading. You could introduce the concept of Creative Commons, and say it&#8217;s legally risky to download anything else.</p>
<p>Not a very satisfactory answer, I&#8217;m afraid, but it&#8217;s the best I can come up with.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Colin</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the concern voiced about disconnection for infringement of copyright. I believe the law seems more than heavy handed.

As I am a tutor at Senior Net, I am sure this issue will be raised in one of my classes. 
What will I answer to the question &quot; how do I distinguish between legal &amp; illegal down loadS&quot; ?

Be interested to hear any comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the concern voiced about disconnection for infringement of copyright. I believe the law seems more than heavy handed.</p>
<p>As I am a tutor at Senior Net, I am sure this issue will be raised in one of my classes.<br />
What will I answer to the question &#8221; how do I distinguish between legal &amp; illegal down loadS&#8221; ?</p>
<p>Be interested to hear any comments.</p>
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		<title>By: CanalRat</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>CanalRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see copyright infringment all the time through my work, some of it linked to deliberate fraud attempts so I beleive some stronger legislation needs to be in  place against copyright infringes and I would support that, including giving the ISPs a role in removing access.

But it requires a better burden of proof than someone within the music industry pointing a finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see copyright infringment all the time through my work, some of it linked to deliberate fraud attempts so I beleive some stronger legislation needs to be in  place against copyright infringes and I would support that, including giving the ISPs a role in removing access.</p>
<p>But it requires a better burden of proof than someone within the music industry pointing a finger.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beleive an MP in the Beehive has downloaded an audio file.
Please cut off all the Beehive internet access.
Is that what is needed?
Graham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beleive an MP in the Beehive has downloaded an audio file.<br />
Please cut off all the Beehive internet access.<br />
Is that what is needed?<br />
Graham</p>
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		<title>By: Gold</title>
		<link>http://it.gen.nz/2008/09/25/cutting-off-your-internet-if-you-are-accused-of-infringement/comment-page-1/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator>Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to suggest that all those that have the ability, should crack the computers of those that voted for this and start downloading music.  Then dob them into the music industry and get them cut off.  See how they like it...  It&#039;s a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, and meant in jest.  

However, there is one thing that I can see that is mildly insane.

This will be the end of the Wireless Hotspot in this country should it ever kick in.

To the Govt: Good on ya.  Stifle innovation.  Ignore due process. Bow to your Corporate Overlords.

Luddites...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest that all those that have the ability, should crack the computers of those that voted for this and start downloading music.  Then dob them into the music industry and get them cut off.  See how they like it&#8230;  It&#8217;s a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, and meant in jest.  </p>
<p>However, there is one thing that I can see that is mildly insane.</p>
<p>This will be the end of the Wireless Hotspot in this country should it ever kick in.</p>
<p>To the Govt: Good on ya.  Stifle innovation.  Ignore due process. Bow to your Corporate Overlords.</p>
<p>Luddites&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Webstock does politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webstock does politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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